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Fritjof Capra

The Web of Life

People have always speculated on the nature of life, and on how living things differ from inanimate objects. In The Web of Life Fritjof Capra approaches the question using some of the new scientific ideas which have arisen in the last few decades such as chaos and complexity theory. He identifies the need to find the structure, pattern and process involved in living things. Structure is based on dissipative structures, as described by Ilya Prigogene . Capra's ideas for pattern and process are based on those of Humberto Maturana and Francisco Varela, with pattern arising from autopoesis, and cognition being the process of life.

However, I felt that Capra's approach is too wide, resulting in a rather rambling book. It sometimes seems that he is just trying to include anything which happens to be trendy, and at the same time including some pretty weak criticism of things which he feels to be too 'establishment', such as artificial intelligence. If you don't mind this sort of jumble of ideas then you might enjoy read this book, but my feeling is that most readers would do better to go for books written by those involved in the original research such as Prigogene, Lovelock and Margulis.

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The vitality and accessibility of Fritjof Capra's ideas have made him perhaps the most eloquent spokesperson of the latest findings emerging at the frontiers of scientific, social, and philosophical thought. In his international bestsellers The Tao of Physics and The Turning Point, he juxtaposed physics and mysticism to define a new vision of reality. In The Web of Life, Capra takes yet another giant step, setting forth a new scientific language to describe interrelationships and interdependence of psychological, biological, physical, social, and cultural phenomena--the "web of life."



During the past twenty-five years, scientists have challenged conventional views of evolution and the organization of living systems and have developed new theories with revolutionary philosophical and social implications. Fritjof Capra has been at the forefront of this revolution. In The Web of Life, Capra offers a brilliant synthesis of such recent scientific breakthroughs as the theory of complexity, Gaia theory, chaos theory, and other explanations of the properties of organisms, social systems, and ecosystems. Capra's surprising findings stand in stark contrast to accepted paradigms of mechanism and Darwinism and provide an extraordinary new foundation for ecological policies that will allow us to build and sustain communities without diminishing the opportunities for future generations.



Now available in paperback for the first time, The Web of Life is cutting-edge science writing in the tradition of James Gleick's Chaos, Gregory Bateson's Mind and Matter, and Ilya Prigogine's Order Out of Chaos.
 
Web of Life a Little Bit Tangled ***
I admire the intent of The Web of Life, but the outcome is a bit messy and confusing. Although the content and ideas Capra writes about are very important, and I agree with about 90 percent of what he says, the way it is stated is very confusing and not well-written in most parts. A comprehensive knowledge of the sciences is required before making sense of this book, and even if you possess that, it still is not very clear. Only recommended for those willing to wade through some murky text.
 
This is not for the leisure reader... ***
I had to read this book for a class that I was enrolled in. This book is really tough to get through. Jam packed full of interesting views, some parts I had to read twice just so that I could comprehend the subject. This isn't a book that I would have chosen to read on my own.
 
Good introduction to systems theory and its implications to other spheres ****
While this book isn't perfect, it is certainly a very nice introduction for the average person to systems theory and its implications to other areas.

I basically agree with some of the criticisms in the spotlight reviews about the flatland or a web of life vs. a heirarchy (or even better holarchy) both in nature and in other spheres of life. For example, in a holarchy is a heirachy of wholes that are part of larger wholes in the way that atoms make up molecules, molecules make up cells, collections of cells make up a tissue, etc. This is concept is underplayed in this book, but it seems to be true inside and outside of nature. Ken Wilber offers a more complete explanation of this concept in A BRIEF HISTORY OF EVERYTHING and many other writings.

I also think it's important to keep in mind that a systems view is an outside look of a collective. Empiricism represents an outside look of some single topic. I think it is also necessary to look at the interiority of both individuals and collectives to get a complete understanding of something as complicated as life, politics, religion, etc. I don't think system theory alone is the magic bullet.

This book is relatively short, easy to follow and provides a nice introduction to systems theories and some other important topics. It has some shortcomings, but it is basically solid although there is a bias toward a "flatland" view of nature and reality. If you supplement reading it with some other material such as the book I mentioned above, it may open up some new horizons for you.

Happy reading... I hope you found my interview helpful. Feel free to leave comments if you wish.
 
New Ager's View of Life *
This is a superficial and flawed book. It contains some truths but it usually draws the wrong conclusions from them. "New Agers" may love discussion of such topics as "Ecofeminism" and the book will probably make them feel good but I would not recommend it for anyone else. A person with background in the physical or life sciences could probably separate the wheat from the chaff in the book but such a person may already know most of the material. Others are likely to be misled.

Several earlier reviewers (such as "radtrad", J. Floyd, "doomsdayer520", and others) have made specific criticisms that I find valid, so I do not want to repeat them here. If anything, they have been too kind to the book.
 
Excellent book!!! *****
I can't attest to the science, so this review is about "The Web of Life" as literature. The Web of Life is a highly articulate and worthy piece of literature. Even at it's most scientific, it reads like the friendly voice of a wise Indian Chief. It begins with a quote inspired by Chief Seattle, and proceeds to frame the cultural context of various theories. The science gives a foundation to a conscientious way for institutions to view the world, which I honestly believe is the only solution to the greed driven decline of values in modern institutions. Conscience in institutions begins with what people believe to be true...and modern culture has some fixed ideas with probably no basis in fact except as dictated by greed. Conscience in institutions is a topic that sprouts in various forms in books related to Systems Thinking, etc.

It takes a highly articulate book to step over the communication "land mines" inherant in old ways of thinking and justifications. Systems Thinking by itself in an institutional setting would have a difficult time bringing about one drop of conscience. "Systems Thinking" will rarely work well in institutions simply because as a language, it is too closely related to the type of "business thinking" that has evolved for years (Old thinking = get as much for as little as possible, grow financially at the expense of everything else, etc.)

And I think the science in The Web of Life is sound. My quantum physisist friend seemed to like it...

I just watched another popular video called "What the Bleep"....about how thoughts effect your reality..which after watching it made me pause to think about how what we're thinking is important...but that's kind of similar to the Web of Life in the sense that it's entertaining AND it's educational and raises some questions about ethical considerations.

Of course, scientists DO sometimes perceive things in overly codified ways....and the average person may not think that conscience and science should be mixed. But the world DOES have issues, and those issues are real...and unfortunately, science has both fixed things AND at times made things worse. So we have pennisiln AND we have atom bombs, both from science. So, religion is important, BUT science...or at least GOOD science is a necessary investment...and this book details a direction for Science that gives a foundation to new ways of seeing matters of genuine concerns for humanity and life on the planet in this crazy era we're living now.



 
A beautifully crafted synthesis of life and its origins. *****
An articulate, intelligent and thoroughly enjoyable account, Capra has captured the very essence of life, both its complexity and simplicity, and held it up for his readers in a text of stunning clarity. Capra's arguments are engaging and persuasive, without becoming too technical or falling into the trap of preaching.

For anyone who's ever wanted an answer to the question "why are we here?" - this is the book for you. All over the world and down through the many generations of sentient human beings, the quest for an explanation for our existence, one that is acceptable to both scientific and non-scientific people alike, has remained elusive - until now. In "Web of Life", Fritjof Capra presents his "new synthesis" of life - intergrating his own exceptional vision with ideas from the works of such pre-eminent thinkers as Margulis, Lovelock, Maturana and Varela. The product of this ambitious endeavour is a truly remarkable, entertaining and most of all enlightening account of what life is, how it arose, and how it evolved and continues to evolve.

The subject matter is helped enormously by Capra's writing style: captivating, succinct and free of excess technical terminology. He presents his ideas in a logical and compelling manner, providing hooks into deeper source material throughout the text and yet managing to convey the essence of his thoughts into laymen's language for common understanding.

This book will do for human understanding of life and man's place in it what Stephen Hawking's "Brief History of Time" has done for our everyday understanding of the universe. It really is a beautiful work, filled with ideas that will change the way you think about your own life and about the life around you.

As one who has been seeking answers for 25 years, be assured that they exist. You can find them in Fritjof Capra's "Web of Life".
 
More Compilation than Creation ***
For those familiar with Capra's more famous tome "The Tao of Physics," the inconsistencies of that book are also present in this one. Once again, Capra has attempted a synthesis of specialized branches of scientific knowledge into an overall unified theory, this time dealing with biology and ecosystems. Unfortunately, just as the older book explained eastern and western views of time and space but failed to convincingly integrate them into a larger understanding, the same thing happens here. The result is a useful compilation and summary of various realms of modern scientific thought, but once again Capra's goal of creating a unified theory fails to materialize.

What we do get is a serviceable summary of recent research and breakthroughs in various "systems" theories. This is the antithesis of classic western science in which natural processes are broken down into small independent parts that are only related in a linear cause-and-effect pattern (the mechanistic view). Capra provides plenty of evidence that natural phenomena, both within organisms and across ecosystems, operate in far more complex and systematic fashions. These types of systems theories are necessary for a true understanding of the Earth and life itself.

But Capra's work here is mostly summary with little analysis. He tends to introduce scientists and their theories repeatedly throughout the book, and very large segments are made up entirely of the works of other theoreticians such as Lynn Margulis or Humberto Maturana. Capra also has an annoying way of saying that every scientific discovery he covers was groundbreaking or profoundly influential. The book ends very inconclusively with a skimpy 8-page epilogue in which Capra tries to tie the extensive knowledge he has compiled into a new theory of how humans should interact with the Earth. But it turns out to be merely simple environmentalism, and not the grand unified theory that was goal of all the extensive build-up. This book is quite useful as a summary of knowledge, but once again Capra just doesn't quite bring it all together. [~doomsdayer520~]

 
Very informative and easy to understand *****
I thought this book was very informative and easy to understand for people who are not experts in systems theory. It provided me with a nice holistic perspective of the systems we are involved in. Through his books, Frijof Capra is spreading a holistic way of looking at life. I believe that his books serve a very important function in this age of materialism, urban alienation, spiritual confusion and chaos. Although there are many great books that serve this purpose, this is defintiely one of them. Another book that serves this wonderful purpose is, "The Ever-Transcending Spirit" by Toru Sato. It is an incredible book that uses the systems approach to understand how our subjective selves are also involved in these systems. If the world is to become a better place, both books should be read by many many more people.
 
Doomsday Philosophy Masquerading as Science *
Unfortunately I had to read this book for a college class. Although Capra uses the umbrella of science, his approach is anything but scientific. The book sank considerably in my estimation when I saw that the first footnote credits Al Gore for documenting that the world is on the brink of destruction. Perhaps our world really is in sorry shape if we are willing to recognize a career politician as a credible scientific source.

Capra claims that it is imperative that the planet shift over to his "ecological" world view, but he provides little in terms of accurate information or factual data to support his position. This book is an emotional appeal to a romanticized view of the Earth, with a typical lack of appreciation for human ingenuity and ability to adapt.

Better choices for those who actually prefer the facts about the state of the world are "The Skeptical Environmentalist: Measuring the Real State of the World" by Bjorn Lomborg or "Hard Green: Saving the Environment from the Environmentalists" by Peter Huber. If you are a new age dreamer who doesn't care about facts, this book is for you. If you seek the "scientific understanding" that Capra's subtitle promises, look elsewhere.

 
I have to disagree **
I found this book very difficult to stick to; I even took it with me to read on the treadmill at my health club in my old "captured audience" ploy and found that the treadmill was actually "interesting enough!" I'd actually gotten to page 208 when my great dane Tempo tore the book to pieces. Now, you have to know that my father was a school librarian, so books are treated with great reverence in my house. It is with a certain amount of shame that I have to admit to a little relief in this instance; I certainly can't imagine buying it again just to finish it. (Forgive me, Dad)!
 
Only useful as a short history of systems thinking **
What's good about this book? It provides a nice, concise history of the various developments that have led up to the "paradigm shift" supposedly taking place in modern science from reductionism and mechanism to holism and neo-vitalism. In so far as it does so, it is a laudable achievement.

Unfortunately, the author, and many of the thinkers he seems to be drawing from, insist on deriving unwarranted conclusions from their work, particularly in the areas of social theory and political philosophy. We are told, for example, that humans have built societies based on hierarchies of domination and submission, but that nature espouses the creation of "networks". which, it is alleged, are egalitarian. This is simply untrue. Anything involving two or more elements that are related to each other may be called a "network", including the most brutal master/slave relations ever seen on Earth. There is nothing inherently egalitarian in the notion that everything living is connected and related to everything else. The notions being preached here do not follow from the premises, however true they may be.

A deeper problem with such conclusions is that they are not borne out by natural systems themselves. Most, if not all, higher mammals are highly hierarchical species; especially the higher primates, to whom we are most closely related. Clearly, this is a fact of nature that is at odds with the author's desire to promote a vision of an egalitarian world informed by ecological and biological thinking. This is the great weakness of the book. While it clearly and neatly explains the history of systems thinking, it insists on deriving from it's premises politically correct values that have absolutely no foundation in nature itself, as anyone familiar with the controversy over socio-biology and evolutionary psychology could tell you. Those movements, by the way, are utterly absent from the bibliography and are unmentioned in the subject index. I can only think that this is by deisgn. The author is so well informed on other matters that I cannot believe that he is unaware of the work of these movements.

Thus, I would warn everyone who considers reading this book to take the results it derives from it's first principles with more than a few grains of salt, even if those principles are themselves convincing. It presents a picture of nature that has more to do with the sentimental fables of Rousseau and his generations of Leftist admirers than with the real knowledge gleaned from the study of nature. And anyone who would embrace ecological thinking as the model for a new era should remember this: Nietzsche, certainly no humanitarian or egalitarian, was the modern philosopher most heavily influenced by biology and vitalism.


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