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Douglas Hofstadter

I am a strange loop

In 1979 Douglas Hofstadter shot to fame with his book Gödel, Escher Bach. He realised, however, that readers weren't picking up what he thought was one of its main messages, that is the parallelism between Gödel's incompleteness theorem creating metamathematics within mathematics itself, and the emergence of mind from inanimate matter. In I am a strange loop he gives a more direct explanation of this parallelism. The book looks at feedback loops and at how higher order systems emerge from simple entities, as well as examining what we mean by reality and how we should think of the soul.

I wasn't convinced that this book was a nail in the coffin of Dualism, as Hofstadter seemed to think - remember that some people, such as Roger Penrose, use Gödel's theorem to argue for a more dualistic view of mind. Rather I would say that the book helps to explain how the self, rather than consciousness, arises. The book is written in an easy to read style with plenty of examples of Hofstadter's ideas relate to his own life. In particular, his thoughts on how one self might occupy more than one body are likely to be of interest to a wide readership.

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Douglas Hofstadter's long-awaited return to the themes of Gödel, Escher, Bach--an original and controversial view of the nature of consciousness and identity.

Can thought arise out of matter? Can self, a soul, a consciousness, an "I" arise out of mere matter? If it cannot, then how can you or I be here?

I Am a Strange Loop argues that the key to understanding selves and consciousness is the "strange loop"--a special kind of abstract feedback loop inhabiting our brains. The most central and complex symbol in your brain or mine is the one called "I." The "I" is the nexus in our brain, one of many symbols seeming to have free will and to have gained the paradoxical ability to push particles around, rather than the reverse.

How can a mysterious abstraction be real--or is our "I" merely a convenient fiction? Does an "I" exert genuine power over the particles in our brain, or is it helplessly pushed around by the laws of physics?

These are the mysteries tackled in I Am a Strange Loop, Douglas R. Hofstadter's first book-length journey into philosophy since Gödel, Escher, Bach. Compulsively readable and endlessly thought-provoking, this is the book Hofstadter's many readers have been waiting for.

 
I guess I'll finish it ***
This book did not turn out to be what I was expecting/wanted, which would have been more about the physical brain than just symbols created by it. There are some pretty interesting ideas expressed in this book, but it could easily be 100 pages and not 400. Very repetitive.

I agree with the most "useful" negative review. I guess I am going to finish this book (at page 260), but more out of annoyance of owning half-read books than any sense of thrill at reading it.

Not horrible.
 
Oh Please **
Doug Hofstadter is a pleasant fellow, a warm human being, and I think I would enjoy his company a whole lot, while disagreeing with his thinking almost all the time. To start, I'm with Bertrand Russell: once you start playing games with reasonable hypotheses, for example, talking about "sets which are members of themselves" or language that talks about itself, you're abandoning rational systems and entering the world of games, which can be called "making things hard for the fun of it." That's what tennis, team sports, and chess are all about. Philosophy, which claims to be interested in absolute truth, should be more careful.

So I'm with Bertrand Russell, and against Kurt Goedel, and against DH in this. I think this book demonstrates the box canyons you end up in when you play Hofstadter's and Goedel's game. In particular, in this book Doug proves my point; when he tries to explain consciousness he can't do better than "somehow" and "mirabile dictu." He spends time with the conundrum we all encountered in sophomore year of college and finally matured enough to ignore, the epistemological problem: how do I know the world isn't a figment of my imagination? This is another flavor of how does the real world interact with my mind, or what is my mind by which I know the world. Building analogies doesn't help: my favorite reaction to analogies was delivered by a poetry professor. In response to something like "the horizon is a blue tractor," he responded, "no it isn't." In my opinion, when someone uses an analogy to support an argument, he doesn't have a good argument.

This book is a collection of fragments of several books. As philosophy it fails; as memoir it is often interesting, unsatisfyingly incredible (literally) in his discussion of his interaction with his dear friend David Chalmers, warm and human when he talks about his family life and children, and terribly sad when he reports the loss of his wife. But as others have commented, it does not belong in the science section of a book store; perhaps in philosophy, more likely in memoirs or "new age."
 
The Risible State of Consciousness Studies *
Is there anything more risible than the current state of consciousness studies? Over the past two decades one respected commentator after another has come to grief in trying to explain it. In 'I Am a Strange Loop' Professor Douglas Hofstadter offers a model which is astonishingly devoid of any significant reference to advances in brain science. Instead he offers a notion rooted in philosophical idealism which leads straight to solipsism. What will come next? Strange Attractors?
 
In the Labyrinth of the Mind with Hofstadter and Searle **
In the Labyrinth of the mind with Hofstadter and Searle: a review of Douglas Hofstadter's, I am a Strange Loop

Meade Fischer

Those of you who suspect that cognitive science isn't particularly cognitive or scientific; Hofstadter's 2007 book will confirm your suspicions. This rambling and often incoherent work is located on the "science" shelves, but would be better placed in "memoirs."

The title made me think I'd be getting current insights into consciousness, but after he started the book with a dialog he wrote as a teen and followed it up with an account of his conversion to vegetarianism, I began to think he wasn't going to address the subject.
Then when he blasts John Searle for a review of Hofstadter's earlier work, The Mind's I,
the warning lights really went off. The review was concise and clear and didn't warrant offhand dismissal. Perhaps Hofstadter's admitted friendship with artificial intelligence guru Marvin Minsky had something to do with the hostile attitude.

Oddly enough, there are areas of agreement between Searle and Hofstadter, such as a rejection of Cartesian dualism and thinking machines: on page 190 he agrees that Deep Blue, when beating Kasparov at chess, wasn't really thinking.

I found his premise that the "I," that self-consciousness we all experience, is a loop running in the brain. However, he doesn't really dig deeply into what that means in terms of mental states and brain activity. He does go on about symbols in the brain, but that is totally unclear. It sounded to me like little name tags stuck to synapses.

He also failed to address a major issue surrounding the "I," the obvious evolutionary forces that made self-consciousness necessary. We are social animals, and to be such we must read the goals, moods and actions of our group, and then make inferences about projected group behavior. Doing this would, naturally, be pointless if we couldn't also read the same things in ourselves in order to decide if we were with the group, following them, deciding to lead them in another direction or deciding we were in the wrong group.
It is impossible to be a social animal without self reference.

Another puzzling part of the book is the amount of space he spends praising mathematician Kurt Gödel. He devotes one full chapter and a big part of at least two others in what appears to be blatant hero worship. He even dwells on the fact that Gödel's name includes the letters "god." As part of this hero worship, he reduces the work of Bertrand Russell and Alfred Whitehead to nothing more than a springboard for Gödel's 1931 work. The most confusing part of these Gödel pages is that Hofstadter takes a convoluted route to make a connection between Gödel and the premise of his book. I finally had to skip over sections where Gödel's name appeared. That Hofstadter is an admitted failed mathematician might have something to do with this apparent obsession.

Hofstadter's notion that an imperfect copy of one person's mind can be incorporated into another, say a loved one, ignores the fact that the physical experiences, not just mental ones, shape the content of the mind, thus forever leaving each mind virtually isolated. He seems to verge on the "New Age" with these notions.

At times Hofstadter attempts to be literary, but he seems to try too hard, overdoing the extended metaphors to the point where the reader thinks, "just get on with it."

Finally, in this 360 page book, any valuable points he makes about consciousness and self-consciousness can be found in John Searle's 161 page, Mind, Language and Society.
However, Searle is perfectly clear, while Hofstadter leaves the reader confused.


 
Infinity, ho! ***
This book is good in the sense that his major premise has much to commend it. In another sense, his major premise could have been explained in a rather lengthy article in only 36 pages, rather than the 363 pages it takes to explain. Plus, there were a few things I did not particularly care for.

For instance, making a demeaning remark about Bertrand Russell's work because of Kurt Gödel's later work is like talking about how stupid Newton was, because, well, Einstein updated Newton's contribution, except one could not compare Gödel to Einstein by any stretch of the imagination.

Also, the math that Gödel worked on has absolutely nothing to do with consciousness, so he wasted several chapters associating consciousness to mathematical concepts, probably because he really wanted to be a mathematician, and so takes the opportunity to trot out mathematics as if he's the math professor. In the end, it was only a metaphor for the consciousness (as epiphenomenon), so I can hardly see why it merited several chapters of graduate level math. The math of Russell and Gödel has no direct implication for consciousness.

It is perhaps easy to understand how a person could think he had several "selves" inside his head, if that person were one that could actually could think he went on a vacation his friend only told him about, and could actually have an argument with his friend about who went, like Hofstadter. Dementia, anyone?

He seems intent on trying to redefine what consciousness is in the most unusual ways he can come up with, so that he can seem like the most original thinker...so everyone can laud him as being the genius that defined consciousness. Though what he expounds in this loopy book makes sense, I've read much more fruitful eight page articles on consciousness out of Scientific American.

Hofstadter does have some good points about symbols bumping around against each other in the brain, and I do think he is really onto something, but I kept waiting for him to explain what his research team has found. He says he has a research team, and I assume they must do research, but he never explains his research or his findings.

One of the best chapters in the book is chapter 20, which has a sort of Socratic dialogue, expounding the ideas of the book in the clearest language up to that point. I just feel he has shied away from scientific language (other than the Gödelian math escapade) in favor of endless parables.
 
I am a Strange Loop ***
I am still working my way through this one - not a page-turner but a put-down-and-take-up-again-later book! Delivery was quick. That's all I can say, maybe I'm not intellectual enough!
 
Not that great, actually **
I Am A Strange Loop is well-known and loved by lots of geeky readers, but I can't really count myself as one of them, sadly. I wanted to like this book because of its many recommendations by fellow nerds, but it's hard-going. Hofstadter is fascinated, obsessed with the idea of self-referential paradoxes, or 'loopiness' as he calls it. Woe betide you if you find them even slightly less fascinating than he does! You will find your intelligence insulted, your emotional maturity trashed, and even be called a coward (seriously, wtf?). Poor old Bertrand Russell takes the brunt of Hofstadter's frustration at the idea that not everybody finds his pet subject the One True Concept to get their pants in a twist over, and he's continually insulted for attempting to find resolutions to logical paradoxes as though doing so was some kind of intellectual crime against thought. Hofstadter is convinced that we are both fascinated and a little afraid of loopiness, and he's convinced of that because he is himself. He doesn't really make much effort to persuade anybody else, because if you don't feel that way then you're probably in denial or just not able to 'get' what he's telling you.

The other reviewers have done a better job of dissembling Hofstadter's philosophy than I could, so instead I'll concentrate on my other gripes, which is his writing style. He seems to have an idea that his writing is somewhat charming and whimsical. I would disagree, finding it somewhat hectoring and trite. He's obsessed with lists - often presenting an example of some concept immediately followed by ten or twenty sub-examples that all say the same thing. The typeface of the book is huge, so he can easily fill three quarters of a page with arbitrary nouns, something he does with relish. After the third or fourth such block of pointless examples, one finds one's eyes glazing over and skipping to the bottom of the page and reading back up just to avoid his train of thought. After the fifteenth block of them, one starts to actively feel a bit annoyed. Think of all the poor trees that had to be cut down to make these big books full of redundant phrasing. Do they have souls?

He uses frequent alliteration, a convention that drives me mad at the best of times, but becomes still more offensive when it's over-used. Hofstadter says in his preface that he's had fine control over everything in the way the book is presented, including the typography. I dearly wish he'd left the typography and the editing to the experts and concentrated on rigorous verification of his ideas.

All in all, it's a fairly charmless and tedious monologue, patronising and sometimes directly insulting (to both the 'Dear Reader' as well as Bertrand and poor John Searle). Some interesting ideas, but he could do so much better.
 
Insipid, chatty, superficial *
I expect a text with such a theme to be less anecdotal, more to the point, denser in content. The author himself admits that friends have recommended he abridge his discourse. I wish he had. This interesting topic sells the book, but the reader discovers after 30 pages that he's not learned one thing. Whatever the author has to say could be said clearly in about a seventh the number of pages, but then the book would no longer function well as a doorstop.
 
Fantastic *****
Having read the book I could not disagree more with the reviewer who gave one star. This book does not have any agenda in the slightest and I doubt very much the reviewer really read the book as if anything Hofstadter argues that consciosness exists to a varying degree depending on the sophistication of the brain possessed by the animal and so one could infer that he advocates meat eating! which he doesn't do either.

Although elements of the book seem abstract and sometimes a little off track, once fully read I began to appreciate the care the author has taken to tie all of his anecdotes and metaphors together to provide his wonderful vision of what a soul means.

In addition to all this, the book is peppered with great: scientific, musical, literary and everday analogies that really clarify the points he is trying to make.
 
Work of art *****
This book has given me a grain of dust to stick some of my personal theories to, allowing me to create a beautiful snowflake out of my previous knowledge. My ideas of self, religion, human nature all make a lot more sense now. It's as if all these ideas have finally found their place, a single abstraction, inside my mind. Now that these ideas are a single unit, they are ready to be used by me, and become part of, a far greater snowflake, which in the end defines who I am.

I recommend this book to anyone in search of their true self.
 
Douglas is on the right track! *****
Unlike the previous long winded and arrogant reviews , I highly recommend this book. I am not going to pretend to be some pigeon holed, know-it-all philosopher, claiming to understand the universe and what consciousness is.
Douglas Hofstadter attempts to understand the relationships between the "I" and the biological body. His looping analogies try to clarify what our consciousness could be in relationship with the numerous systems of symbols within our being. The book is written for an educated layman but certainly not engrossed in technical mish-mash. It is an unprovable concept and Douglas understands that. He just wishes to put the idea of "I" into some sort of representational or symbolic view within the mysterious goings-on in all of us. He does not ever expound upon souls living forever. Instead, Douglas observes that the thoughts and ideas of others can live on in others, as fragments of the deceased, in the vast collection of experiences and interactions with the "outside world".
If you are interested in a very thought provoking inquiry into what your "ego" could be, you should read this book.
 
Lost in the Black Hole of Consciousness *
When I read Douglas Hofstadter's Pulitzer Prize winning book Gödel, Escher, Bach (GEB) many years ago, I found it to be challenging, but stimulating reading, as it was imaginative in its style and approach in drawing intriguing parallels between the worlds of mathematics, music, and the art of M.C. Escher. I was therefore looking forward to another difficult but thought provoking read when "I am a Strange Loop" was published.

The blurbs on the book cover called it "brilliant", "delightful" and "fascinating" and the book even won a Los Angeles Times book prize. The preface certainly got my mental juices flowing as it promised "new ideas everywhere under foot."

It quickly became apparent however that the style and often obscure analogies and metaphors used in GEB were now being recycled in an attempt to explain his very subjective opinions on consciousness and how it gives rise to the sense of self (the I) and the soul!

In GEB, Hofstadter showed his fascination with the logician Kurt Gödel and he trundles out Gödel's incompleteness theorem again to show that self referential equations in mathematics can be true but cannot be proven to be true. This is an example of a strange loop in mathematics that he believes also occurs in the brain during consciousness. "I can't say what it is; I just know it's true." (p285) This of course is not science it is a type of religious faith.

It was not until page 292 that he actually gets around to really trying to explain what he means by his title. He sees the I of the self, as only a symbol generated in the brain to represent the self and this I can perceive the symbol of itself thus creating a strange loop.

By the time I (no pun intended) had gotten this far I had already reached the conclusion that Hofstadter was perhaps starting to exhibit early symptoms of schizophrenia. He believes in degrees of soulness in living things which he calls Hunekers and this has led him to a rationalization for his vegetarianism. Vegetables don't have Hunekers but animals do. Mosquitoes have next to none and it is ok to kill them but cows are more sentient and hence have more Hunekers, and should not be killed and eaten. He also thinks that souls of people can exist outside the body and that after the tragic death of his wife he sees her soul as still existing as part of him and others.

Hofstadter's views on consciousness are closer to new age thinking than to any type of science and he makes only a few vague references to the many recent discoveries about the brain and evolutionary psychology.

Hofstadter's does not mention the fact that his ideal of a rational thinker, Kurt Gödel, went mad and starved himself to death and it is somewhat distressing to see that a similarly gifted mind may be headed in the same direction. It is certain that when it comes to the Black Hole of consciousness, Douglas Hofstadter is already well beyond the Event Horizon.
 
Latest Sermon From The Church of Fundamentalist Naturalism *
It might justly be asked what importance Gödel's proof has for our work. For a piece of mathematics cannot solve problems of the sort that trouble us.--The answer is that the situation, into which such a proof brings us, is of interest to us. 'What are we to say now?'--That is our theme. However queer it sounds, my task as far as concerns Gödel's proof seems merely to consist in making clear what such a proposition as: Suppose this could be proved means in mathematics.
Wittgenstein Remarks on the Foundations of Mathematics
p337(1956) (written in 1937).

My theorems only show that the MECHANIZATION of mathematics, ie., the elimination of the mind and of ABSTRACT entities, is impossible, if one wants to have a satisfactory foundation and system of mathematics. I have not proved that there are mathematical questions that are undecidable for the human mind, but only that there is no MACHINE (or BLIND FORMALISM) that can decide all number-theoretic questions, (even of a very special kind)....It is not the structure itself of the deductive systems which is being threatened with a brakedown, but only a certain INTERPRETATION of it, namely its interpretation as a blind formalism.
Gödel "Collected Works" Vol 5, p 176-177.(2003)

Superstition is nothing but belief in the causal nexus. Wittgenstein TLP 5.1361

"Now if it is not the causal connections which we are concerned with, then the activities of the mind lie open before us." Wittgenstein "The Blue Book p6 (1933)

We feel that even when all possible scientific questions have been answered, the problems of life remain completely untouched. Of course, there are then no questions left, and this itself is the answer. Wittgenstein TLP 6.52 (1922)


I have read some 50 reviews here and on the net (that by quantum physicist David Deutsch was perhaps the best) and none of them provide a satisfying framework, so I will try to give novel comments that will be useful, not only for this book but for any book in the behavioral sciences (which can include ANY book, if one grasps the ramifications).

Like his classic Gödel, Escher, Bach: the Eternal Golden Braid, and many of his other writings, this book by Hofstadter (H) tries to find correlations or connections or analogies that shed light on consciousness and all of human experience. As in GEB, he spends a great deal of time explaining and drawing analogies with the famous incompleteness theorems of Gödel, the recursive art of Escher and the paradoxes of language (though, as with most people, he does not see the need for quotes, and this is the core of the problem). The idea is that their seemingly bizarre consequences are due to strange loops and that such loops are in some way operative in our brain. In particular, they may give rise to our self, which he seems roughly to equate with consciousness and thinking. As with everyone, when he starts to talk about how his mind works, he goes seriously astray. I suggest that it is in finding the reasons for this that the interest in this book, and most general commentary on behavior, lies.

I will contrast the ideas of ISL with those of the philosopher (armchair psychologist) Ludwig Wittgenstein (W), whose commentaries on psychology, written from 1912 to 1951, have never been surpassed for their depth and clarity. He is an unacknowledged pioneer in evolutionary psychology (EP) and developer of the modern concept of intentionality. He noted that the fundamental problem in philosophy is that we do not see our automatic innate mental processes. He gave many illustrations (one can regard the entire 20,000 pages of his nachlass as an illustration), some of them for words like is and this, and noted that all the really basic issues usually slip by without comment. A major point which he developed was that nearly all of our intentionality ( roughly, our evolutionary psychology (EP), rationality or personality) is invisible to us and such parts as enter our consciousness are largely epiphenomenal (ie, irrelevant to our behavior). The fact that nobody can describe their mental processes in any satisfying way, that this is universal , that these processes are rapid and automatic and very complex, tells us that they are part of the hidden cognitive modules (templates or inference engines) that have been gradually fixed in animal DNA over more than 500 million years.

As in virtually all writing which tries to explain behavior (philosophy, psychology, sociology, anthropology, history, politics, theology, and even, as with H, math and physics ) , I am a Strange Loop (ISL) commits this kind of error (oblivion to our automaticity) continually and this produces the puzzles which it then tries to solve. The title of ISL comprises words we all know, but as W noted, word uses can be seen as families of language games (grammar) which have many senses (uses or meanings), each with its own contexts. We know what these are in practice but if we try describing them or philosophizing (theorizing) about them, we nearly always go astray and say things that may appear to have sense but lack the context to give them sense. It never crosses Hofstadters mind that both strange and loop are out of context and lack any clear sense (to say nothing about I and am!). If you go to Wikipedia, you find many uses (games as W often said) for these words and if you look around in ISL you will find them referred to as if they were all one. Likewise for consciousness, reality, paradox, recursive, self referential, etc. So, we are hopelessly adrift from the very first page, as I expected from the title. A loop in a rope can have a very clear sense and likewise a diagram of a steam engine governor feedback loop, but what about loops in mathematics and the mind? . H does not see the strangest loop of allthat we use our consciousness, self and will to deny themselves!


Regarding Gödels famous theorems, in what sense can they be loops? What they are almost universally supposed to show is that certain basic kinds of mathematical systems are incomplete in the sense that there are true theorems of the system whose truth (the unfortunate word mathematicians commonly substitute for validity) or falsity (invalidity) cannot be proven in the system. Though H does not tell you, these theorems are logically equivalent to Turings incompleteness solution of the famous halting problem for computers performing some arbitrary calculation. He spends a lot of time explaining Gödels original proof, but fails to mention that others subsequently found vastly shorter and simpler proofs of incompleteness in math and proved many related concepts. The one he does briefly mention is that of contemporary mathematician Gregory Chaitinan originator with Kolmogorov and others of Algorithmic Information Theory-- who has shown that such incompleteness or randomness (Chaitins term-- though this is another game), is much more extensive than long thought, but does not tell you that both Gödels and Turings results are corollaries to Chaitins theorem and an instance of algorithmic randomness. You should refer to Chaitins recent writings such as The Omega Number(2005), as Hofstadters only ref. to Chaitin is 20 years old (though Chaitin has no more grasp of the larger issues here --ie, innate intentionality as the source of the language games in math-- than does H and shares the Universe is a Computer fantasy as well).

Hofstadter takes this incompleteness (another word (conceptual) game out of context) to mean that the system is self referential or loopy and strange. It is not made clear why having theorems that seem to be (or are) true (ie, valid) in the system, but not provable in it, makes it a loop nor why this qualifies as strange nor why this has any relationship to anything else.

It was shown quite convincingly by Wittgenstein in the 1930s (ie, shortly after Gödels proof) that the best way to look at this situation is as a typical language game (though a new one for math at the time)ie, the true but unprovable theorems are true in a different sense (since they require new axioms to prove them). They belong to a different system, or as we ought now to say, to a different intentional context. No incompleteness, no loops, no self reference and definitely not strange! W: Gödel's proposition, which asserts something about itself, does not mention itself and Could it be said: Gödel says that one must also be able to trust a mathematical proof when one wants to conceive it practically, as the proof that the propositional pattern can be constructed according to the rules of proof? Or: a mathematical proposition must be capable of being conceived as a proposition of a geometry which is actually applicable to itself. And if one does this it comes out that in certain cases it is not possible to rely on a proof. (RFM p336). These remarks barely give a hint at the depth of Ws insights into mathematical intentionality, which began with his first writings in 1912 but was most evident in his writings in the 30s and 40s. W is regarded as a difficult and opaque writer due to his aphoristic, telegraphic style, but if one starts with his only textbook style workthe Blue and Brown Books --and understands that he is explaining how our evolved higher order thought works, it will all become clear to the persistent.

W lectured on these issues in the 1930s and this has been documented in several of his books. There are further comments in German in his nachlass (some of it formerly available only on a $1000 cdrom but now, like nearly all his works, on p2p). Canadian philosopher Victor Rodych has recently written two articles on W and Gödel in the journal Erkenntnis and 4 others on W and math, which I believe constitute a definitive summary of W and the foundations of math. He lays to rest the previously popular notion that W did not understand incompleteness (and much else concerning the psychology of math). In fact, so far as I can see W is one of very few to this day (and NOT including Gödel!though see his penetrating comment quoted above) who does.

In any case, it would seem that the fact that Gödels result has had zero impact on math (except to stop people from trying to prove completeness!) should have alerted H to its triviality and the strangeness of trying to make it a basis for anything. I suggest that it be regarded as another conceptual game that shows us the boundaries of our psychology. Of course, all of math, physics, and human behavior can usefully be taken this way.

H spends a lot of time on Whitehead and Russells Principia Mathematica, since it led to Gödels work. W had gone from Russells beginning logic student to his teacher in about a year, and Russell had picked him to rewrite the Principia. But W showed that the idea of founding math (or rationality) on logic was a profound mistake. W is one of the worlds most famous philosophers and made extensive commentaries on Gödel and the foundations of mathematics and the mind; is a pioneer in EP (though nobody seems to realize this); the discoverer of the basic outline and functioning of higher order thought and much else, and it is amazing that Dennett &H, after half a century of study, are completely oblivious to the thoughts of the greatest natural psychologist of all time (though they have 6 billion for company

The Eternal Golden Braid is not realized by H to be our innate Evolutionary Psychology, now, 150 years late (ie, since Darwin), becoming a burgeoning field that is fusing psychology, cognitive science, economics, sociology, anthropology, political science, religion, music (see eg, G. Mazzolas The Topos of Music), art, math, physics and literature. H has ignored the vast majority of the insights from philosophy, quantum physics, probability, meditation, EP , cognitive psychology and psychedelics.

In my estimation, neither H nor anyone else has provided a convincing reason to reject the Chinese room argument (the most famous article in this field) that computers dont think (NOT that they cannot ever do something that we might want to call thinkingwhich Searle admits). And Searle has (in my view) organized and extended Ws work in books such as The Construction of Social Reality and Rationality in Action-- brilliant summations of the organization of HOT (higher order thoughtie, intentionality)rare philosophy books you can even make perfect sense of once you translate a little jargon into English! H, D and countless others in cognitive science and AI are incensed with Searle because he had the temerity to challenge (destroy- I would say) their core philosophy the Computational Theory of Mind (CTM) almost 30 years ago and continues to point this out. Of course they (nearly) all reject the Chinese room or simply ignore it, but the argument is, in the view of many, unanswerable. The recent article by Shani (Minds and Machines V15, p207-228(2005)) is a nice summary of the situation with references to the excellent work of Bickhard on this issue. Bickhard has also developed a seemingly more realistic theory of mind that uses nonequilibrium thermodynamics, in place of Hofstadters concepts of intentional psychology used outside the contexts necessary to give them sense.

Few realize that W again anticipated everyone on these issues with numerous comments on what we now call CTM, AI or machine intelligence, and even did thought experiments with persons doing translations into Chinese. I had noticed this (and countless other close parallels with Searles work) when I came upon Diane Proudfoots paper on W and the Chinese Room in the book Views into the Chinese Room (2005). One can also find many gems related to these issues in Cora Diamonds edition of the notes taken in Ws early lectures on math Wittgensteins Lectures on the Foundations of Mathematics, Cambridge 1934(1976). Ws own Remarks on the Foundations of Mathematics covers similar ground. One of the very few who has surveyed Ws views on this in detail is Christopher Gefwert, whose excellent book Wittgenstein on Minds, Machines and Mathematics (1995), is universally ignored. Though he was writing before there was any serious thought concerning electronic computers or robots, W realized that the basic issue here is very simple---computers lack a psychology (and even 70 years later we have barely a clue how to give them one), and as usual he summed it all up in his unique aphoristic way But a machine surely cannot think!--Is that an empirical statement? No. We only say of a human being and what is like one that it thinks. We also say it of dolls and no doubt of spirits too. Look at the word "to think" as a tool. (Philosophical Investigations p113). Out of context, many of Ws comments may appear insipid or just wrong, but the perspicacious will find that they usually repay prolonged reflectionhe was nobodys fool.

Hofstadter, in all his writings, follows the common trend and makes much of paradoxes, but ny symbolic system we have ( ie, language, math, art, music, games etc) will always have areas of conflict, insoluble or counterintuitive problems or ill definitions. Hence, we have Gödels theorems, the liars paradox, inconsistencies in set theory, prisoners dilemmas, Schrodingers dead/live cat, Newcombs problem, Anthropic principles, Bayesian statistics, notes you cant sound together or colors you cant mix together and rules that cant be used in the same game.

Virtually none of those writing the hundreds of articles and countless books on these issues which appear yearly seem aware they are studying the limits of our innate psychology and that Wittgenstein usually anticipated them by over half a century. Typically, he took the issue of paradox to the limit, pointing to the common occurrence of paradox in our thinking, and insisted that even inconsistencies were not a problem (though Turing, attending his classes, disagreed), and predicted the appearance of inconsistent logical systems. Decades later, dialetheic logics were invented and Priest in his recent book on them has called Ws views prescient. If you want a good recent review of some of the many types of language paradoxes (though with no awareness that W pioneered this in the 1930s and largely innocent of any grasp of intentional context) see Rosenkranz and Sarkohis Platitudes Against Paradox in Erkenntnis V65, p319-41(2006). Appearance of many W related articles in this journal is most appropriate as it was founded in the 30s by logical positivists whose bible was Ws Tractus Logico Philosophicus. Of course, there is also a journal devoted to W and named after his most famous workPhilosophical Investigations.

W clearly and repeatedly noted the underdetermination of all our concepts (eg, see his comments on addition and the completion of series in Remarks on the Foundations of Mathematics), which mandated their becoming innate (ie, evolution had to solve this problem by sacrificing countless quadrillions of creatures whose genes did not make the right choices). Nowadays this is commonly called the problem of combinatorial explosion and often pointed to by evolutionary psychologists as compelling evidence for innateness, unaware that W anticipated them by over 50 years.

Before any explanations(really just clear descriptions, as W noted) are possible, it has to be clear that the origins of our behavior lie in the axioms of our innate psychology, which are the basis for all understanding, and that philosophy, math, literature, science, and society are their cultural extensions.

Dennett (and anyone who is tempted to follow himie, everyone) is forced into even more bizarre claims by his skepticism (for I claim it is a thinly veiled secret of all reductionists that they are skeptics at heartie, they must deny the reality of everything). In his book The Intentional Stance and other writings he tries to eliminate this bothersome psychology that puts animals in a different class from computers and the universe by including our innate evolved intentionality with the derived intentionality of our cultural creations (ie, thermometers, pcs and airplanes) by noting that its our genes, and so ultimately nature (ie, the universe), and not we that really has intentionality, and so its all derived. Clearly something is gravely amiss here! One thinks immediately that it must then also be true that since nature and genes produce our physiology, there must be no substantive difference between our heart and an artificial one we make from plastic. For the grandest reductionist comedy in recent years see Wolframs A New Kind of Science which shows us that all is computation--ie, he eliminates psychology by definition.

One sees that Dennett does not grasp the basic issues of intentionality by the title of his book. Our psychology is not a stance or attribution or posit about ourself, or other beings mental lives, any more than its a stance that they possess bodies. A young child or a dog does not guess or suppose and does not and could not learn that people and animals are agents with minds and desires and that they are fundamentally different from trees and rocks and lakes. They know (live) these concepts (shared psychology) from birth and if they weaken, death or madness supervene.

This brings us again to W who saw that reductionist attempts to base understanding on logic or math or physics were incoherent. We can only see from the standpoint of our innate psychology, of which they are all extensions. Our psychology is arbitrary only in the sense that one can imagine ways in which it might be different, and this is the point of W inventing odd examples of language games (ie, alternative concepts (grammars) or forms of life). In doing so, we see the boundaries of our psychology. The best discussion I have seen on Ws imaginary scenarios is that of Andrew Peach in PI 24:p299-327(2004).

W said many times in many ways that we must overcome our craving for clarity , the idea of thought underlaid by crystalline logic, the discovery of which will explain our behavior and our world and change our view of what it is to be human.

The more narrowly we examine actual language, the sharper becomes the conflict between it and our requirement. (For the crystalline purity of logic was, of course, not a result of investigation: it was a requirement.)PI 107

On his return to philosophy in 1930 he said:

The wrong conception which I want to object to in this connexion is the following, that we can discover something wholly new. That is a mistake. The truth of the matter is that we have already got everything, and that we have got it actually present; we need not wait for anything. We make our moves in the realm of the grammar of our ordinary language, and this grammar is already there. Thus, we have already got everything and need not wait for the future. (Waismann Ludwig Wittgenstein and the Vienna Circle (1979) p183

and in his Zettel P 312-314

Here we come up against a remarkable and characteristic phenomenon in philosophical investigation: the difficulty---I might say---is not that of finding the solution but rather that of recognizing as the solution something that looks as if it were only a preliminary to it. We have already said everything.---Not anything that follows from this, no this itself is the solution!

This is connected, I believe, with our wrongly expecting an explanation, whereas the solution of the difficulty is a description, if we give it the right place in our considerations. If we dwell upon it, and do not try to get beyond it.

Some might also find it useful to read Why there is no deductive logic of practical reason in Searles superb Rationality in Action (2001). Just substitute his infelicitous phrases impose conditions of satisfaction on conditions of satisfaction by relate mental states to the world by moving musclesie, talking, writing and doing, and his mind to world and world to mind directions of fit by cause originates in the world and cause originates in the mind.

Another basic flaw in H (and throughout scientific discourse, which includes philosophy since it is armchair psychology) concerns the notions of explanations or causes. We have few problems understanding how these concepts work in their normal contexts but philosophy is not a normal context. They are just other families of concepts (often called grammar or language games by W and roughly equivalent to cognitive modules, inference engines, templates or algorithms) comprising our EP (roughly, our intentionality) but, out of context, we feel compelled to project them onto the world and see cause as a universal law of nature that determines events. As W said, we need to recognize clear descriptions as answers which terminate the search for ultimate explanations.

This gets us back to my comment on WHY people go astray when they try to explain things. Again, this connects intimately with judgements, decision theory, subjective probability, logic, quantum mechanics, uncertainty, information theory, Bayesian reasoning, the Wason test, the Anthropic principle (Bostrum The Anthropic Principle(2002)) and behavioral economics. In his pre-Tractatus writings, Wittgenstein commented that The idea of causal necessity is not A superstition but the SOURCE of superstition. I suggest that this seemingly trite remark is one of his most profound W was not given to platitude nor to carelessness. What is the cause of the Big Bang or an electron being at a particular place or of randomness or chaos or the law of gravitation? But there are descriptions which can serve as answers.

Thus, H feels all actions must be caused and material and so, with his pal D and the merry band of reductionist materialists, denies will, self and consciousness.
This is especially odd in Hs case as he started out a physicist and his father won the Nobel prize in physics so one might think he would be aware of the famous papers of Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen and of von Neumann in the 20s and 30s, in which they explained how quantum mechanics did not make sense without human consciousness (and a digital abstraction wont do at all). In this same period others including Jeffreys and de Finetti showed that probability only made sense as a subjective (ie, psychological) method and Wittgensteins close friends John Maynard Keynes and Frank Ramsey first clearly equated logic with rationality, and Popper and others noted the equivalence of logic and probability and their common roots in rationality. There is a vast literature on interrelationships of these disciplines and the gradual growth of understanding that they are all facets of our innate psychology. Those interested might start with Ton Sales article in the Handbook of Philosophical Logic 2nd Ed. Vol 9 (2002) since it will also introduce them to this excellent source, now extending to 14 Volumes (the first 9 on p2p).

There is a vast literature on causes and explanations so I will only refer to Jeffrey Hershfields excellent article Cognitivism and Explanatory Relativity in Canadian J. of Philosophy V28 p505-26(1998) and to Garfinkels book Forms of Explanation(1981). This literature is rapidly fusing with those on epistemology, probability, logic, game theory, behavioral economics, and the philosophy of science, which seem almost completely unknown to H. Out of the hundreds of recent books and thousands of articles, one can start on this with Nancy Cartwrights books, which provide a partial antidote to the Physics and Math Rule the Universe delusion. Or, one can just follow the links between rationality, causality, probability, information, laws of nature, quantum mechanics, determinism, etc in Wikipedia and the online Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, for decades (or, with Ws comments in mind, maybe only days) before one realizes he got it right and that we do not get clearer about our psychological reality by studying nature. One way to look at ISL is that its faults remind us that scientific laws and explanations are frail and ambiguous extensions of our innate psychology and not, as H would have it, the reverse.

It is a curious and rarely noticed fact that the severe reductionists first deny psychology, but, in order to account for it (since there is clearly SOMETHING that generates our mental and social life), they are forced into camp with the blank slaters (all of us before we get educated), who ascribe psychology to culture or to very general aspects of our intelligence (ie, our intentionality is learned) as opposed to an innate set of functions. H and D say that self, consciousness, will, etc are illusionsmerely abstract patterns (the spirit or soul of the Church of Fundamentalist Naturalism). They believe that our program can be digitized and put into computers, which thereby acquire psychology, and that believing in mental phenomena is just like believing in magic (but our psychology is not composed of beliefswhich are only its extensions-- and nature is magical). I suggest it is critical to see why they never consider that patterns(another lovely language game!) in computers are magical or illusory. And, even if we allow that the reductionist program is really coherent and not circular (eg, we are too polite to point out as do W and Searle and many othersthat it has NO TEST for its most critical assertions and requires the NORMAL functioning of will, self, reality, consciousness etc, to be understood), can we not reasonably say well Doug and Dan, a rose by any other name smells as sweet! I dont think reductionists see that even were it true that we could put our mental life in algorithms running in silicon (or-- in Searles famous examplein a stack of beer cans), we still have the same hard problem of consciousness: how do mental phenomena emerge from brute matter? This would add yet another mystery with no obvious way to recognize an answerwhat does it mean (why is it possible) to encode emergent properties as algorithms? If we can make sense out of the idea that the mind or the universe is a computer (ie, can say clearly what counts for and against the idea), what will follow if it is or it isnt?

Its dripping with irony that Ds most recent book is on the EP of religion, but he cannot see his own materialism as a religion (ie, its likewise due to innate conceptual biases). Timothy OConnor has written (Metaphilosophy V36,p436-448(2005)) a superb article on Ds Fundamentalist Naturalism.

Emergence of higher order properties from inert matter (more language games!) is indeed baffling, but it applies to everything in the universe, and not just to psychology. Our brains had no reason (ie, there are no selective forces operative) to evolve an advanced level of understanding of themselves or the universe, and it would be too genetically costly to do so. What selective advantage could there have been in seeing our own thought processes? The brain, like the heart, was selected to function rapidly and automatically and only a minute part of its operations are available to awareness and subject to conscious control. Many think there is no possibility of an ultimate understanding and W tells us this idea is nonsense (and if not then what test will tell us that we have reached it)Perhaps the last word belongs to Wittgenstein. Though his ideas changed greatly, there are many indications that he grasped the essentials of his mature philosophy in his earliest musings. It is a defensible thesis that the structure and limits of our intentional psychology were behind his early positivism and atomism. So, let us end with the famous first and last sentences of his Tractatus, seen as summarizing his view that the limits of our innate psychology are the limits of our understanding. The world is everything that is the case. Concerning that of which we cannot speak, we must remain silent.


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