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Ray Kurzweil and Terry Grossman

Fantastic Voyage

With each new advance in medicine we gain the possibility of living a bit longer - but it seems that death will eventually come to us all. But can we be so certain of this? In Fantastic Voyage: Live long enough to Live For Ever Ray Kurzweil and Terry Grossman claim that immortality is a possibility for many of those alive today.

Their path to immortality is via 3 stages (they call them bridges). The first is a healthly lifestyle, which will keep us alive for another couple of decades. By then we would hoped that the next bridge, biotechnology, will have been reached, to prolong our lives even more. Thus we should reach the third bridge, nanotechnology, which offers the promise of making us immortal.

The majority of the book is concerned with the first bridge. The authors look at what we eat, showing what we should eat more of an what we should avoid - sugar is particularly bad it seems. They also discuss what supplements we should take, and the benefits of exercise. There are chapters on illnesses such as cancer and heart disease, and what we can do to avoid them.

I think the book will be of interest, even for those not following the recommendations, for the detail that it goes into (which might be too much detail for some). For instance it explains the difference between omega-3 and omega-6 fats, and why the first is so much better for you. I'm not convinced I would want to follow their regime myself - too many tablets to take for one thing. (Although, as they point out, this will only be necessary for a couple of decades, which will be an insignificant part of our potential lives). But it's always useful to know what options might be open to me.

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Tap today’s technological breakthroughs to live longer and better.

Startling discoveries in the areas of genomics, biotechnology, and nanotechnology occur practically every day. The rewards of this research, some of it as spectacular as science fiction, are practically in our grasp. Fantastic Voyage shows us how we can use these new technologies to live longer than previously imaginable.

The authors take the reader on a journey to undreamed-of vitality with a comprehensive investigation into the cutting-edge science regarding diet, supplementation, genetics, detoxification, and the hormones involved with aging and youth. By following their program, which includes such simple recommendations as eating a balanced, low- glycemic-index diet, and taking powerful anti-aging nutritional supplements, anyone will be able to add years of healthy, active life.

 
Good guide to living forever--BUT boy, is it depressing! ****
I am reading Ray's Singularity book, where he makes a convincing case that tech is moving forward so incredibly fast that there's a good chance that if you can only make it to 2020 still alive & functioning, you might live a much longer life than we do now, and in a much better state of health.

I know Ray eats lots of health pills and stuff, and wanted to get his recommendations for what exactly to do to actually live to 2020 (when I will be 80). The book does a good job of methodically working through all aspects of a healthy life, from exercise and stress to diet, with a heavy emphasis on diet. It is certainly "actionable" since he tells you what you need to do.

Problem is, what you need to do is give up anything you've ever liked to eat in your life, and spend the rest of your life (or until 2020) eating stuff that has no flavor, no taste, no fun, no jazz. Give up sweets, simple starches like potatoes, macaroni, spaghetti, bread other than whole-wheat with pebbles in it, ice cream and milk and all other dairy products, and every form of meat except salmon -- not even tuna and swordfish because they have high mercury levels. No gravies or sauces, no mayo, only olive oil--and only certain specific expensive olive oils, too.

Instead you are to revert to your hunter-gatherer ancestral dietary load of raw everything, fatless everything, little meat, little sweet, little tasty -- if it's tasteless, dry, chewy, and flavorless, then good. If you find yourself smiling after you take a bite--then spit it out, it's killing you!

Kiss off mealtime and snacktime as joyful enterprises in your life. Eating is something you will from now on do for fuel only, not for pleasure.

To be fair, Ray and his partner make two points: First, if you really do try to reduce yourself to this level of eating, after a while you will get somewhat used to it -- it's supposedly true that, for example, if you eat a lot of sweets you become addicted to sweet tastes, whereas if you forgo sweets, after a while your sweet tooth diminishes. So it's not torture forever--just for the months (or years?) it will take your body and your taste buds to adjust. I suppose that might have some truth to it. God knows if I have chocolate milk for breakfast (so shoot me!), my sweet tooth for the rest of that day becomes more like a sweet fang.

Second, he says that by the time we reach 2020, medical technology breakthroughs will make it likely that we'll be able to go back to abusing our digestive tracts somewhat, since medicine will be able to offset or compensate for our poor choices and we'll have sin without guilt once again. Ah, Eden!

But for now, I just get depressed every time I look in the fridge, or walk the aisles of the grocery store, knowing that every single thing that catches my eye will kill me outright, or at least before I reach 2020. It will be really, really annoying if I am the last man to die from 20th century body malfunctions! But if I had that much discipline and self control, I'd be a much better person than I have ever been. And how likely is that?
 
Great health advice, but the premise assumes a future that should be questioned ***
I am impressed by the number and quality of customer reviews this book has spawned, many with which I largely agree. To wit:

- This book is chock full of good health and nutritional advice backed by solid research
- It starts to get dicey when it talks about new drugs, technologies, and treatments that are as of yet unproven.

In general, buy it for the great health advice, and leave it at that.

Beyond what is written on the page, there is another underlying thread that I must say I found troubling. I first sensed it when Ray described his own health regimen. He talked about going to a clinic once a week where he gets hooked up to IVs for several hours to receive supplements. Yikes, Ray, that sounds just a little obsessive to me. You get the feeling that Ray doesn't do anything half way, and that's probably why he has been so successful in life, but it seems very narcissistic. And the number of pills these guys must take is enormous, and expensive. Have you priced something as prosaic as, say, CoQ-10 lately? This living-forever business is not cheap.

Looking at the bigger picture, I can't help but feel that the authors are blithely ignoring the elephant in the room: living forever sounds great, but the consequences for the world as we know it are profound and unknown. Would we start handing out ration tickets for baby production? Do we understand the psychological implications for a population that is 1,000 years old? I don't think we can even begin to imagine what the world would be like, but I don't think too many people alive today would like it very much.

I'm sure Terry and Ray would say that that is a whole different discussion; that they want to solve the whole pesky dying thing first, then we'll worry about the consequences. But those nagging questions about the desirability of their purported end-game prevent me from recommending this book more highly.

If you don't think too hard about their ultimate goal, and use their advice to make your time on this earth more productive and pleasant, you'll do just fine.
 
Take your prescribed skepticism together with this book and swallow *****
The greatest benefit of this book is that it really forces you to think about all aspects of your body, as well as some of your mind. You learn once and for all--often in excruciating detail--that we very much are what we eat. Likewise, on the mental divide, we learn that we become what we think.

There are several sections defined as "bridges" (Scientology antagonists, flee!)--obviously more from the pen of Mr. Kurzweil than Mr. Grossman, and more typical of the Futurist side of him that we have come to meet in books like "The Age of Spiritual Machines"--that sometimes border on the ridiculous. But it's always entertaining, in good spirit, and again, it makes you think. So many times during our recorded history has science fiction crossed over into real life, that we should be very careful dismissing anything simply based on what we personally consider ludicrous today.

Even so, take everything in this book (especially the dosages of food, nutrients, drugs, etc) together with a healthy dose of skepticism--and don't forget to consult your physician before you swallow.
 
detailed overview of current best of breed health information ****
I've begun implementing Ray and Terry's program in stages, and it has definitely improved my life in the short term. I can only imagine what good it will have in the long run...
 
Fascinating! *****
This book is fascinating! It is so full of great information. In fact it is so good I visited Dr. Grossman in Denver, Co. and I am from Los Angeles! If you are into Longevity, this is the book for you. I thought it was so good that I have bought 6 copies for friends and family.
 
Past and Future *****

The author presents an interesting, futuristic vision of the medicine, its influence at our health, and ultimately, at our longevity. It is an interesting, easily understandable read with a lot of information from the fields of genomics, biotechnology and other sciences. The authors present optimistic views on fighting and conquering such modern plagues as cancer, heart diseases, etc. An interesting comparison to the 'Fantastic Voyage...' is the book 'Can We Live 150' by Tombak, with its similar focus on longevity. This one, however, relies on age old remedies adapted to modern times, rather than on the achievement of the sciences. As it usually is the case, the truth is probably buried somewhere in between.
 
Life Transforming Information *****
I've been a student of health and nutrition for the past 25 years. Frankly I though I knew most of it. How wrong could I be.
Here, for the first time that I have found, is a unique collection of factual information based on the very best cutting edge understanding about our body and about life.
For the first time I really "got" what it would take to stay healthy for as long as possible, throughout my life.
It made difficult reading - tough decisions are necessary. But frankly this book is so "in your face" that it is impossible to hide.
Either you take notice of what you need to do and transform your life, or you ignore it and are responsible, to a huge degree, for your own illnesses.
Do I recommend this book? Yes, but ONLY if you are prepared to take action in a major way to change how you eat, exercise, take nutritional supplements and deal with stress. If you are - this book will live out the title and take you on a fanatastic voyage. If you aren't prepared to change - don't spend your money!
 
Live long enough to live forever ****
It must be hard for a serious scientist working towards the goal of human immortality to be taken seriously, in the same way as I'm sure it is for those astronomers who spend inordinate amounts of time looking for signs of intelligence from the heavens. Immortality, like aliens, have been so done-to-death in fiction that it's hard for rational thinkers to treat it as being anything other than a fantasy or a myth. In a way, it's worse for immortality -- living forever has been a central part of so many legends (and has been portrayed in such a way) to cause most of us to consider it almost as though it's an impossible dream -- or worse, that it's somehow fundamentally forbidden by the universe.

And yet... why should it be forbidden? Is there really some fundamental magic or spirituality that causes people to age because it's the 'right' thing for humans to do? An increasing number of sane and serious scientists are beginning to think that perhaps effective immortality is not impossible after all.

To help swallow the idea that immortality is possible, it may be useful to realise that immortality doesn't have to be achieved all at once, and as long as there's enough time to figure it out, we will get there. Fortunately, the in-roads made as part of working towards immortality do exactly that -- give us more time!

It has been reported recently that human life expectancy has increased by about 3.5 years in the last 6 years. Some thinkers believe that it will be possible to increase human life expectancy by 1 year PER YEAR within perhaps a decade or two. If this becomes a reality, immortality has effectively happened and gives those working on it plenty of extra time to REALLY make it happen.

Look at longevity another way. If someone could guarantee you an extra year of healthy life to be tagged onto the end of your current 'allotted lifetime', how much would it be worth to you? Thousands? Tens of thousands?

In which case, how much extra time would reading this book have to add onto your life for it to be worth the few pounds it costs?

This book really could change your life... and as your life might turn out to last longer than you expected, that might be a more important thing than you can currently imagine.


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